Sunday, December 03, 2006

Guest Writer: Many Enemies, One Country

My good friend Marc asked me to publish this for him on the blog. I encourage everyone to read it and reflect on the ideas he is trying to communicate. Enjoy:

By Marc

Dear all,

I am of the political opinion (generally speaking) held by FPMers (and the December 1st demos) and all of the points held between the FPM and Hizbullah in their so-called ‘war2at el tafahom’. I am very grieved at the hostility that I am experiencing with friends and even family because of politics these days and the division that has besieged Lebanon. Yes, I do have strong political views but I not only respect the others’ view but consider them to be brothers.

I want to seize on something that Aoun said in his speech. Namely, that he had wished that the current ministers were with him and that he wishes to partner with, and not eliminate, the other factions. I consider that this is very significant. I know many consider Aoun to be a loose cannon, and I heartily disagree with them, yet its not Aoun or whoever that I wish to talk about.

Today there is something very significant that is new in Lebanese history; the Lebanese are holding the Lebanese flag whatever side they are on. In the late 50’s they were burning the Lebanese flag in some parts of Lebanon, for example. Instead of seizing on this fact we are branding eachother traitors and losers... we need to understand eachother if we wish to build our nation.

It was the Shi’ites and southern folk who bore the brunt of Israeli occupation and Palestinian activities in the south for decades and they bear the trauma of this. In terms of both violence and the length of violence, it was the Christians of Mount Lebanon and other regions who suffered and bore the brunt of Syrian occupation and many Palestinian militias. There is no doubt that the Sunni’s and Druze and Lebanese suffered in both of these occupation and that Lebanon as a whole suffered from all foreign and domestic forces and corruption.

Somebody in a forum once said that we need to first agree on who is our enemy... I did not realize the importance of this then, but today I realize that Lebanon is divided based on who the Lebanese perceive as a threat... Its very sad when we can not (or will not) understand the traumas of occuapation and the way it manifests itself in society as a whole. Syria and Israel are both threats, they are different though and we can not act and behave as if only one of them exists. I think this is due either to indifference or ignorance on the part of the Lebanese people who hold to a view whereby only ‘Syria and their allies’ or ‘Israel and their allies’ are enemies.

This must not continue. What Aoun (of March 14) initiated with Hizbullah (of March 8) in his so-called memorandum of understanding was a great political step at bridging these two sides together... for the first time you had Hizbullah agreeing to a system whereby former SLA’ers (South Lebanese Army, proxy militia of Israel before until 2000) and their families were repatriated to Lebanon and you had them talking about Lebanese prisoners in Syrian jails. Likewise, there was a strong affirmation from the FPM that Israel is a great threat and the State must devise a viable strategy to defend itself against such an enemy with a powerful and violent military. Such an understanding must be initiated from the bottom up as well...

I have written this because Harriri and his allies say Syria is the number one threat... Hizbullah and their allies say Israel is our main threat... Of course, it is what their supporters think that I am addressing today. We can not defend ourselves againgst one enemy at the expense of allowing another to take hold.

I hope that we can start from here in building bridges between brothers in order to build a Lebanon where justice and true freedom prevails from Aakkar to Bint Jbeil.

28 comments:

  1. different factions with different political agendas, different definitions of what a nation means and what its future should be, none powerful enough to prevail without the support of regional more powerful allies. The only solution would be to build the great wall of Lebanon and isolate ourselves from ALL external influence, and then, either live together in peace, or finish each other off completely. Either that, or inevitable partition of Lebanon.

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  2. Anonymous4:00 PM

    Partition of Lebanon!
    I have heard it and read it several times.
    How would that work?Along which lines
    you could partition?

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  3. Janzir6:54 PM

    How can you support Aoun and Hizballah and say that all Lebanese should recognize 2 enemies. These groups don't recognize Syria as a problem while everyone else does recognize Israel as an enemy.

    Apply your analysis to yourself! It seems you get carried away with stupid slogans!

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  4. israeli8:03 PM

    Israe is not your enemy, we just want your rapine and blood lust will not spread here. the wall is there already

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  5. Marc,
    What Janzir said is interesting, I urge you to reflect on it.

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  6. for the first time you had Hizbullah agreeing to a system whereby former SLA’ers (South Lebanese Army, proxy militia of Israel before until 2000) and their families were repatriated to Lebanon and you had them talking about Lebanese prisoners in Syrian jails. Likewise, there was a strong affirmation from the FPM that Israel is a great threat and the State must devise a viable strategy to defend itself

    In other words, the SLA folk were permitted to return to their homes (which they were kicked out of by Hezbollah) as long as they joined Hezbollah in directing their hatred towards Israel. Hezb yielded nothing, as the Hezb-initiated war with Israel demonstrated that a single Lebanese prisoner in Israeli hands (and a person no Lebanese would wish to live next door to!) should utterly dominate the issue of hundreds of Lebanese prisoners in Syrian hands.

    The net result is that Lebanese sold out their own folk in exchange for hating the Jews who previously helped preserve their families from hostile forces. Will G-d forgive them?

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  7. Regardless of Marc's political affiliation, he makes a good point. This point being that as Lebanese we cannot agree on which country poses the worst threat to Lebanon, and where by Lebanese, I meant All the sects of Lebanon. Some of sects think it is Israel, and others think it is Syria, where actually it is both whenever we consider all sects in Lebanon as the building blocks of what makes us Lebanese. Unfortunately, In such a setup with the demands each group is making on one another only makes this 'game' zero sum. That is, one group will gain at the expense of the other.

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  8. Solomon2,
    The reason the July 2006 war occurred is certainly not only about the lebanese detainees in Israel but has far more to do with the developments in the region. Although I disagree with the actions of Hizballa that led to the July 2006 war, these actions did not pit one set of detainnees as more important than the other set.
    ALso, Hizballa is not anti-Judaism, rather anti-Zionism.
    And their hatred of Israel in general is very much justified. If you look back to the 1975 civil war in Lebanon, it is well established that the SLA ers that Marc is talking about and the Israeli Shin Bet and military took part in the consistent terrorizing of the inhabitants of the South of Lebanon....let us not forget the prison at Ansar, and the torture camp at Al Khiam which are among the couple of things on a long list of crimes against humanity conducted in southern Lebanon by Israel and their lebanese proxy.

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  9. if you need more enemies to keep yourself united please tell me ... i will try to improvise some more for you ..

    always happy to be helpful to our neighbors

    Nobody

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  10. Nobody,
    Lebanon does not need more enemies which happens to be a fact, but professing Israel's love for the lebanese without acknowledging the list of crimes it committed in Lebanon along with her allies against other lebanese is there to remind us-the lebanese, that Israel is not so friendly after all but will certainly instigate one group of lebanese against another.

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  11. that Israel is not so friendly after all but will certainly instigate one group of lebanese against another.

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    yes... i admit .. we are doing it all the time ... we just need some water from the litani river ..otherwise we would easily leave you in peace and forget about you

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  12. For you have shed man's blood; you have destroyed lands and cities and everyone in them. " Habakkuk 2:17

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    sounds suspiciouly similar to what the peaceful lebanese are doing to each other duting their civil wars but ok .. lets say i see your point :D

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  13. Anonymous11:47 PM

    Read carefully please, nobody.

    Marc said:

    "and that applies to all the enemies of Lebanon, be they from Lebanon or not."

    ata mevin?

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  14. the lebanese are the worst enemies of themselves .. thats sure

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  15. Nobody,
    Israel has no right to the water of the Litani River!
    You do your cause no justice whatsoever whenever you beleive it is ok for Israel to promote terrorism by committing acts considered crimes against humanity especially when it is done in accordance with Lebanese against other Lebanese, and for what end ... Water.
    If this is the standard of thinking in Israel, then no wonder groups like Hamas and Hizballa flourish.

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  16. kronos

    its the second year that the pool in front of my house stays half empty .. this is a crime against humanity .. give us some water or face the consequences

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  17. Anonymous6:30 PM

    You should read this!!

    Article

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  18. kronos
    its the second year that the pool in front of my house stays half empty .. this is a crime against humanity .. give us some water or face the consequences
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    Nobody,
    Is that the best response you can come up with?
    How pathetic and yet not even mildly funny.

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  19. kronos

    i have no idea what sort of response you and mark are expecting to this mubmbling of five year olds of yours ... ha ha ha .. you forgive me my rudeness .. ha ha ha ... i cannot remember myself laughing so much in years

    Marc Mikhael said...

    Nobody,

    Water and land is the lust of Zionists that drives them on and on... and they are willing to shed blood and more blood to satisfy their greed. And we Lebanese have to do deal with it.

    "The violence you have done to Lebanon will overwhelm you, and your destruction of animals will terrify you. For you have shed man's blood; you have destroyed lands and cities and everyone in them. " Habakkuk 2:17

    Kronos said...

    Nobody,
    Israel has no right to the water of the Litani River!
    You do your cause no justice whatsoever whenever you beleive it is ok for Israel to promote terrorism by committing acts considered crimes against humanity especially when it is done in accordance with Lebanese against other Lebanese, and for what end ... Water.
    If this is the standard of thinking in Israel, then no wonder groups like Hamas and Hizballa flourish.

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  20. Nobody,
    I made good arguments, and clearly you have not made any counter argument...you simply evade debating by making comments resembling that of child's, and you know what, after you mentioned it, I should not expect anyting from a lowlife like your self.

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  21. Nobody,
    You may as well have a reality check and clarification of my comment above:
    Because of what Israel did in the near and further past in Lebanon against lebanese citizens, those who suffered from those acts are ready to die for their cause and wish you and your compatriots annihilation which is a pretty serious thing. Down playing or reducing to a joking matter the acts that your govenrment committed in Lebanon is just low of you...hence you are a lowlife.

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  22. Kronos,

    You must really be in love with yourself, wondering every day when you wake up how much hatred you can proclaim. Look around you what’s happening in your country. You want to blame all that on the Jews again? Is that not a bit old-fashioned and deja vu?

    Roll up your sleeves and get working on solving your problems. Get rid of those fanatics in your country, the Syrians, the Iranians, and that sweaty Nasrallah who hides behind bulletproof glass or in underground bunkers, and who incites others (he is too much a coward to undertake anything himself) to kill, maim, kidnap and conquer the Jews.

    We, Israelis, do not want one inch of your country, not one single Lebanese sect under our control, and have no intention to convert you all to Judaism.

    We simply want to live, be left in peace, educate our children (which we do without inciting hatred of other people or creating suicide bombers), enjoy our diverse nature, learn from others, travel the world (without being persona non-grata in any country), help others when and where we can (we have more volunteers working worldwide and spend more on aid than all Muslim countries with 1.2 billion inhabitants together), share in our expertise (in hi-tech, agriculture, medicine, and much more), and foremost…..live a long and healthy life.

    However, we refuse to get killed or thrown into the Mediterranean to drown. We savor life, and are not so keen to die prematurely (what’s in it for us, anyway, no virgins, that’s for sure).

    To quote my (Israeli Muslim Arab) partner: “ I don’t ever want to live in any Muslim country. I am Israeli, and we are happy with our lives.” However, I do agree we Israeli Jews can do a better job where it regards our Arab compatriots, but we are improving - I doubt you are aware that 20% of Israelis are Arab…….by the way, 32% of Israeli civilians murdered by your Hezbollah compatriots were Arabs.

    Well, perhaps one day I can sit on a nice terrace, sipping an ice-cold beer in Souk el Barghout again, like I did in the “quieter” days……unless Nasrallah really takes over, and both terraces and beer will be forbidden.

    Just be realistic, and stop that intense, blind hatred of us.

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  23. nice posting cronos

    i think it would be enough that i will just leave you to contemplate these comments of yours

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  24. Nobody, and Robet18,
    I am from the group of lebanese who seek a peace with Israel, and I know that not all Israelis are war mongering rubbish and that there is a fraction of society who desires to live in peace. This is similar in Lebanon too. Regarding my previous comments, both of you did not understand what I was getting at which is the following:
    You israelis who desire peace and prosperity cannot ignore what the previous governments of Israel had committed in Lebanon during the civil war in Lebanon simply just because you want peace. And mind you, Hizballa is mostly a reaction to the security vaccuum that existed during the civil war when Palestinian fighters were firing into Israel from villiges and towns in southern Lebanon; also from the SLA and Israeli Army along with the Shin Bet who repeatedly committed hideous acts against them. They could not defend themselves from anyone, and hence made a pact with Iran and Syria. Sadly this is how things turned out.
    Now, wanting peace is a good thing, but like I said, if you really want peace with ALL the Lebanese, then this fraction of Lebanese society and their suffering cannot be ignored simnply because you want peace. The actions of your government present and past does not reflect attitude of desiring peace with all the Lebanese. For example, in the past, it was only with the radical right wing lebanese christians in the past. Finally, after all that Israel has done in the past and still does today only allows such groups like Hamas and Hizballa to flourish. So Robert18, when you hear such statements such as wanting to drown all israelis in the mediterranean, I agree with you that it is something hateful and I don;t like hearing such things, but in your contemplation of such a topic be mindful of why Hizballa does hate Israel. That is, recall the acts committed against these people by the SLA and Israeli army them before they became radicalized by IRan and Syria.

    So now that you know what I am getting at, do think about your previous comments.
    Now rgarding the islamasizing of Lebanon:
    Simply it will never happen, they are a true minority, and not even Nasrallah can impose such a thing on the Lebanese.

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  25. all right mate

    fair enough

    believe me, we all are keeping our fingers crossed for you and your cause ... free lebanon, outside of the sphere of influence of syria and iran...free market economy .. parliamentarian democracy... just like us ... we on our side cannot wish for more

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  26. regarding litani river, i think we can manage it on our own .. we got a very desalination technology recently .. actually if u need more water we can supply you

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  27. Nobody,

    Water and land is the lust of Zionists that drives them on and on... and they are willing to shed blood and more blood to satisfy their greed. And we Lebanese have to do deal with it.

    "The violence you have done to Lebanon will overwhelm you, and your destruction of animals will terrify you. For you have shed man's blood; you have destroyed lands and cities and everyone in them. " Habakkuk 2:17

    ...and that applies to all the enemies of Lebanon, be they from Lebanon or not.

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  28. Anonymous,

    Thanks for the article. I found it interesting. I may not agree with the author's view that Aoun has not pleased his Maronites (certainly not all but many for sure and if not most)... I definetely agree that Aoun is challenging many unwritten rules though... There are many Lebanese who are fed up from the traditional way of doing things and Aoun by himself will not break this tradition, but he is certainly helping to do so... and I support a secularized Lebanon, whereby religious community leaders have less power. This is a big subject and I haven't tackled it properly at all in this post.

    "wa7da thawra, ya watani, bit wadik lal 7orrieh!"

    (Majida Roumi in a song, I think its the right order of words... it means 'only revolution, oh patriot, leads you to freedom')

    As for Aoun unwittingly/indirectly helping Syria and Iran further their interests, its true partly but also like the author pointed out, Hizbullah can not trust Aoun to agree with everything they say; to be more correct though, Hizbullah and the FPM have been very clear to each other about their differences. Right now they are allies in their role as an 'opposition' and nothing guarantee that this alliance will continue. What is good about Aoun, in my opinion, is that he and Nasrallah have been frank about their respective opinions on all pending issues and very open to dialogue and finding solution jointly... this is how things need to happen. I find the Mustaqabl-led March 14 coalition to be vague and ambigous in their purpose, for example just as a comparison.

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