Saturday, November 18, 2006

Unity Government or Regime Change?

“If they want to govern without Shiite ministers, then nothing would prevent a Shiite from running for president in the future,” said Tarrad Hamadeh, the Hezbollah minister of labor, who resigned Saturday, referring to the agreement that the presidency would be reserved for Christians. “They are messing with the country’s future.”

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  1. Anonymous8:32 PM

    Let them take the presidency. If sectarianism is the name of the game then let me speak sectarianly...

    Does the Maronite dominated regime of the pre-civil war era bring you good you memories? Or does the Sunni dominated regime after the civil war sit well with the Lebanese who were fed up with its excessive corruption?

    Perhaps now is the era of the Shi'ites in Lebanon... and who can stop them? and why should you? So this current government, backed by its regional partners of Saudi Arabia and Egypt who have done nothing but strike freedom of religion, woman rights, the poor, etc, would they bring good to Lebanon? Especially, when the first things they thought of during the war, was the bridges, roads and ruined tourist season rather than the children and homes!!!!

    Lebanon is a nation of the free... no group wins when one group rules.

  2. Anonymous12:45 AM

    So what's the solution??

  3. For the sake of historical accuracy, the post-war regime was dominated from outside Lebanon, a place called Syria for someone who has a fish memory. Only an ignorant like you Mr. anonymous would call it Sunni.
    Now, the Lebanese people have a decent chance to be independent and free but regional powers (that Mr. anonymous carefully chose to forget) are pushing hard to undermine all efforts to stabilize the nation.

    Apparently Mr. anonymous thinks that those regional powers respect women’s rights, the needs of the poor, religious freedoms, tolerance, and above all care about the Lebanese people not stone. For those reasons those regimes decided not to send money to help the Lebanese rebuild their shattered lives, they insisted opted to send weapons and US dollars to Lebanese militias in an effort to destroy what is left of the Lebanese economy and help Mr. anonymous find his lost freedom and rights.

  4. Anonymou said,
    the government ..."who have done nothing but strike freedom of religion, woman rights"
    Would you care to explain or you just don't know what you're talking about ?

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  6. Anonymous8:20 AM

    The only way to safeguard Lebanon's identity is to empower the regional minorities: Shiites, Druze, and Christians! Otherwise we will just be swallowed by our neighbours.

  7. Anonymous7:20 PM

    Dear Mr. Debate,

    Lebanon remains an arena for regional conflicts... with March 14 or without it and with Hizbullah or with out. Labelling Hizbullah as 'Iranian' should be also countered with the US-sponsored label to March 14'ers.

    As for my ignorance due to labelling the Harriri dominated governments (almost uninterrupted in the post-civil war period) as 'Sunni', let me clarify... not Sunni, but Harriri'ist... is that better? It is more correct and I apologize for the categorical 'Sunni' label that I added. No one can deny that Harriri, a great patron of the Sunni community in Lebanon, was an integral part of Syrian policy in Lebanon, especially during the Hafez el Assad reign. But these heros of freedom, these March 14ers, are powered by their greed of their pockets. As they sold the country to the Syrians before, so will they sell it to others.

    Where was Harriri el batal during the Syrian occupation? And why are his supporters 'anti-Syrian' now? Were the Syrians better people before they killed Harriri? Or is Harriri's blood more precious than others because he was a rich leader? Didn't hundreds of thousands suffer the Syrian occupation before Feb 14 2005? And where was Harriri during the Israeli occupation?

    They say Lahoud is the arch enemy and that they signed under duress. They have all condemned themselves... they forsook the country's interest for fear of their lives, these men are therefore not worthy to lead. Let them make way for those who are willing to shed blood for the people and nation they claim to love and care.

  8. Anonymous7:31 PM

    Dear IB and Debate,

    The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, (primary sponsor of the Saudi citizen, Sheikh Saad Harriri) is an example of true freedom when it comes to freedom of religion, tolerance of minorities and their rights, and respect for women's rights... Iran is also severe, but much less severe. Besides, I dont think the Lebanese, regardless of their sect, would accept such extremes.

    does anyone care for me to be more specific?

  9. Anonymous,

    You haven't answered my question yet. How did THIS government, not the Saudi government, infringe on religious freedom and women's rights? Feel free to elaborate.

  10. Anonymous (both of you or one or the other) since you care so much about the Iranian and Syrian regimes and the model of life under their unlighted leadership, why don't you go work and live there instead of working (you or a family member of yours) in the backward underdeveloped Arab gulf states? After all, you should never spit in the plate you eat from!

  11. Debate, I don't understand what you're going at with this post. Nothing is logical about the Lebanese political system or the Taef agreement. This statement of Hamadeh is just a again, what's your point?

  12. Anonymous12:19 AM

    Dear Debate and IB,

    Debate, you are taking things personally in such a phenomonal way its unbelievable. I don't see how (mr.) anonymous attacked you personally in anything that he said that would warrant such venomous language.

    IB, no, this government has NOT at all infringed on these rights; in my opinion it has abided by the national accord.

    Lets understand something; Saudi Arabia, France, Iran, Syria, Egypt, USA, whatever... all are regional powers who take advantage of the Lebanese system. None are better than the other. In my opinion, Lebanese should not rely on any of them too much and this is happening to a large extent now. I am not saying it is wrong for Lebanese parties to have foreign sponsors... it is wrong for them (the parties) to have no clearly communicated vision and to commit injustices through neglect, drastic mispriortization, encouragment of violence against other Lebanese, and corruption as has been the case. We need to judge the Lebanese political groups by what they're doing, not by what their sponsors want (because you will find that perhaps it is better if the opposing foreign sponsors never find themselves winning over their opponents).

  13. Dear Wissam, if you read my previous posts when I first broke out the story about the coup plot you will find out that it's all related. It's within the context of the real objective of the coup plot. The sinister plan is to achieve to for Syria and Iran what they had and lost in Lebanon for so long but this time via a segment of the Lebanese themselves (if they can).
    What they had and lost is the complete vassalization of Lebanon.

  14. Ah Debate, and I thought that you had something against Shiites...with the way you simply posted this without elaboration.

    Plus, there will be no coup...probably just a non-violent demonstration. We'll see what happens.

    Not that I'm pro Hizballah, its just that the government is pretty incompetent at all levels right now. With or without Hizballah/Amal. Coup or no coup, it would be one "evil" replaced with another.

  15. Juxtaposed8:01 PM

    There are different levels of evil. They Syrian one, with their allies, is the definitely the worst of the two. All you have to do is think back to when the Syrians occupied your country, maybe that will put some sense into you.


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